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Hongkong. When I received that despatch

I saw at once the position in which this Colony would be placed if the officials in the Straits were to be paid better than the corresponding positions were worth in Hongkong. Both Colonies are recruited, and will be recruited in the future, by cadets who go through the same examinations, and in accordance with their positions on the list these cadets have the option of choosing where they go. Naturally, if we are the worst paid Colony in the East, we must expect to get simply the remainder. The most successful will naturally choose the best paid position. I wrote in answer to that and I pointed out this to the Secretary of State and also that we find it extremely difficult to get recruits for our police, water police, and warders, or any position for which we want Europeans in this Colony. I pointed out further the position in which this would place Hongkong. Furthermore, I went into the question of the financial position of the Colony, and—I am speaking entirely to the unofficial members of this Council—I think it is unnecessary for me to say anything upon that matter. Anybody who has seen the list of public companies, shares, and other matters which are within the cognisance of anybody who chooses to take the trouble to inquire, must see that the operations in this Colony are very much larger than in Singapore; and I think as far as I, after nearly three years' experience, can gather, the financial position of this Colony is as sound as that of any in the British Empire. I pointed out that, and in answer to that I received this telegram from the Secretary of State on the 12th :- "Refering to Despatch 443. I agree to proposed grant to Government officials additional exchange compensation, to begin the first of next month, on condition laid down in the case of the Straits, and subject to consent by the Legislative Council, who must be warned that more revenue may be required." He pointed out in his despatch that possibly very large votes would have to be taken as a consequence of a possible revisitation of the plague, also possibly as the result of the visits from the two experts coming out, and that it was right to put this before you. But that being so, I place the matter before you. Every official member except myself is interested in this and it is, I need hardly say, a matter upon which they can neither speak nor vote. The following are the number of people who would be affected. There would be on the whole a total of 311 public officials affected by this—135 in the police, 28 in the gaol, 17 in the Harbourmaster's Office, 27 under the Sanitary Board, 32 in the Public Works Department, 9 in the Colonial Secretary's Office, 10 in Queen's College, 24 in the Medical Department, etc.—and the amount that will be necessary to pay that increased exchange compensation during their service in the Colony would be about $120,000 a year, as far as I can see. These are the facts—the only facts—I have and am able to place before you. My own view is that it would be very injurious to this Colony, if it were placed upon a basis of inferiority to the Straits Settlements and the Malay States, and further I may tell you that we have the greatest difficulty at the present moment with our present salaries in procuring men for the gaol, the police, the water police and those small appointments for which Europeans are required. The Colonial Secretary has placed in my hands a letter from the senior unofficial member, Mr. Chater. He states that he is sorry at being unable to be present and adds:"I am very strongly of opinion that our Civil Service here should not be placed in a worse position than the Service in Singapore, and I feel sure that the community would be of the same opinion." That is all I have to say upon the subject, and I place it before you.

Hon. Dr. Ho Kai—I understand, sir, the unofficial members are chiefly concerned in this matter and that the official members will neither discuss nor vote.

His EXCELLENCY the GOVERNOR—No, they will not.

Hon. Dr. Ho Kai—With your leave, and in the absence of the senior unofficial member, I beg to propose a resolution in order that my unofficial colleagues may have an opportunity of discussing this question to-day. The proposition I have to make is as follows:-"That the decision of the Rt. Hon. the Secretary of State on the ...

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Hongkong. When I received that despatch I saw at once the position in which this Colony would be placed if the officials in the Straits were to be paid better than the corresponding positions were worth in Hongkong. Both Colonies are recruited, and will be recruited in the future, by cadets who go through the same examinations, and in accordance with their positions on the list these cadets have the option of choosing where they go. Naturally, if we are the worst paid Colony in the East, we must expect to get simply the remainder. The most successful will naturally choose the best paid position. I wrote in answer to that and I pointed out this to the Secretary of State and also that we find it extremely difficult to get recruits for our police, water police, and warders, or any position for which we want Europeans in this Colony. I pointed out further the position in which this would place Hongkong. Furthermore, I went into the question of the financial position of the Colony, and—I am speaking entirely to the unofficial members of this Council—I think it is unnecessary for me to say anything upon that matter. Anybody who has seen the list of public companies, shares, and other matters which are within the cognisance of anybody who chooses to take the trouble to inquire, must see that the operations in this Colony are very much larger than in Singapore; and I think as far as I, after nearly three years' experience, can gather, the financial position of this Colony is as sound as that of any in the British Empire. I pointed out that, and in answer to that I received this telegram from the Secretary of State on the 12th :- "Refering to Despatch 443. I agree to proposed grant to Government officials additional exchange compensation, to begin the first of next month, on condition laid down in the case of the Straits, and subject to consent by the Legislative Council, who must be warned that more revenue may be required." He pointed out in his despatch that possibly very large votes would have to be taken as a consequence of a possible revisitation of the plague, also possibly as the result of the visits from the two experts coming out, and that it was right to put this before you. But that being so, I place the matter before you. Every official member except myself is interested in this and it is, I need hardly say, a matter upon which they can neither speak nor vote. The following are the number of people who would be affected. There would be on the whole a total of 311 public officials affected by this—135 in the police, 28 in the gaol, 17 in the Harbourmaster's Office, 27 under the Sanitary Board, 32 in the Public Works Department, 9 in the Colonial Secretary's Office, 10 in Queen's College, 24 in the Medical Department, etc.—and the amount that will be necessary to pay that increased exchange compensation during their service in the Colony would be about $120,000 a year, as far as I can see. These are the facts—the only facts—I have and am able to place before you. My own view is that it would be very injurious to this Colony, if it were placed upon a basis of inferiority to the Straits Settlements and the Malay States, and further I may tell you that we have the greatest difficulty at the present moment with our present salaries in procuring men for the gaol, the police, the water police and those small appointments for which Europeans are required. The Colonial Secretary has placed in my hands a letter from the senior unofficial member, Mr. Chater. He states that he is sorry at being unable to be present and adds:"I am very strongly of opinion that our Civil Service here should not be placed in a worse position than the Service in Singapore, and I feel sure that the community would be of the same opinion." That is all I have to say upon the subject, and I place it before you. Hon. Dr. Ho Kai—I understand, sir, the unofficial members are chiefly concerned in this matter and that the official members will neither discuss nor vote. His EXCELLENCY the GOVERNOR—No, they will not. Hon. Dr. Ho Kai—With your leave, and in the absence of the senior unofficial member, I beg to propose a resolution in order that my unofficial colleagues may have an opportunity of discussing this question to-day. The proposition I have to make is as follows:-"That the decision of the Rt. Hon. the Secretary of State on the ... Page 793
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Hongkong. When I received that despatch I saw at once the position in which this Colony would be placed if the officials in the Straits were to be paid better than the corres- ponding positions were worth in Hongkong. Both Colonies are recruited, and will be re- craited in the future, by cadets who go through the same examinations, and in accordance with their positions on the 1 st these cadet have the option of choosing where they go. Naturally, if we are the worst paid Colony in in the East, we must expect to get simply the remainder. The most successful will naturally choose the best paid position. I wrote in answer to that and I pointed out this to the Secretary of State and also that we find it extremely difficult to get recruits for our police, water police, and warders, or any position for which we want Europeans in this Colony. I pointed out further the position in which this would place Hongkong. Furthermore, I went into the question of the financial position of the Colony, and-I am speaking entirely to the unofficial members of this Council-I think it is unneces sary for me to say anything upon that matter. Anybody who has seen the list of public com- panies, shares, and other matters which are within the cognisance of anybody who chooses to take the trouble to inquire, must see that the operations in this Colony are very much larger than in Singapore; and I think as far as I, after nearly three years' experience, can gather, the financial position of this Colony is as sound as that of any in the British Empire. I 'pointed out that, and in answer to that I received this telegram from the Secretary of State on the 12th :- Refering to Despatch 443. I agree to proposed grant to Government officials additional exchange compensation, to begin the first of next month, on condition laid down in the case of the Straits, and subject to consent by the Legislative Council, who must be warned that more revenue may be required." He pointed out in his de spatch that possibly very large votes would have to be taken as a consequence of a possible revisitation of the plague, also possibly as the result of the visits from the two experts coming out, and that it was right to put this before you. But that being so, I place the matter before you. Every official member except myself is interested in this and it is, I need hardly say, a matter upon which they can neither speak nor rote. The following are the number of people who would be affected. There would be on the whole a total of 311 public officials affected by this-135 in the police, 28 in the gaol, 17 in the Harbourmaster's Office, 27 under the Sanitary Board, 32 in the Public Works Department, 9 in the Colonial Secretary's Office, 10 in Queen's College, 24 in the Medical Department, etc. --and the amount that will be necessary to pay that increased exchange compensation during their service in the Colony would be about These are $120,000 a year, as far as I can see. the facts-the only facts--I have and am able to place before you. My own view is that it would be very injurious to this Colony, if it were placed upon a basis of inferiority to the Straits Settlemonts and the Malay States, and further I may tell you that we have the greatest difficulty at the present moment with our present salaries in procuring men for the gaol, the police, the water police and those small appointments for which Europeans are required. The Colonial Se- cretary has placed in my hands a letter from the senior unofficial member, Mr. Chater. He states that he is sorry at being unable to he present and adds:"I am very strongly of opinion that our Civil Service here should not be placed in a worse position than the Service in Singapore, and I feel sure that the community would be of the same opinion." That is all I have to say upon the subject, and I place it before you. Hon. Dr. Ho Kar-I understand, sir, the unofficial members are chiefly concerned in this matter and that the official members will neither discuss nor vote. His EXCELLENCY the GOVERNOR- No, they will not. Hon. Dr. Bo KA-With your leave, and in the absence of the senior unofficial member, I beg to propose a resolution in order that my unofficial colleagues may have an opportunity of discussing this question to-day. The pro- position I have to make is as follows:-"That the decision of the Rt. Hon. the Secretary of ! i 1 4000 : X TEB 2 793
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Hongkong. When I received that despatch

I saw at once the position in which this Colony would be placed if the officials in the Straits were to be paid better than the corres- ponding positions were worth in Hongkong. Both Colonies are recruited, and will be re- craited in the future, by cadets who go through the same examinations, and in accordance with their positions on the 1 st these cadet have the option of choosing where they go. Naturally, if we are the worst paid Colony in in the East, we must expect to get simply the remainder. The most successful will naturally choose the best paid position. I wrote in answer to that and I pointed out this to the Secretary of State and also that we find it extremely difficult to get recruits for our police, water police, and warders, or any position for which we want Europeans in this Colony. I pointed out further the position in which this would place Hongkong. Furthermore, I went into the question of the financial position of the Colony, and-I am speaking entirely to the unofficial members of this Council-I think it is unneces sary for me to say anything upon that matter. Anybody who has seen the list of public com- panies, shares, and other matters which are within the cognisance of anybody who chooses to take the trouble to inquire, must see that the operations in this Colony are very much larger than in Singapore; and I think as far as I, after nearly three years' experience, can gather, the financial position of this Colony is as sound as that of any in the British Empire. I 'pointed out that, and in answer to that I received this telegram from the Secretary of State on the 12th :- Refering to Despatch 443. I agree to proposed grant to Government officials additional exchange compensation, to begin the first of next month, on condition laid down in the case of the Straits, and subject to consent by the Legislative Council, who must be warned that more revenue may be required." He pointed out in his de spatch that possibly very large votes would have to be taken as a consequence of a possible revisitation of the plague, also possibly as the result of the visits from the two experts coming out, and that it was right to put this before you. But that being so, I place the matter before you. Every official member except myself is interested in this and it is, I need hardly say, a matter upon which they can neither speak nor rote. The following are the number of people who would be affected. There would be on the whole a total of 311 public officials affected by this-135 in the police, 28 in the gaol, 17 in the Harbourmaster's Office, 27 under the Sanitary Board, 32 in the Public Works Department, 9 in the Colonial Secretary's Office, 10 in Queen's College, 24 in the Medical Department, etc. --and the amount that will be necessary to pay that increased exchange compensation during their service in the Colony would be about These are $120,000 a year, as far as I can see. the facts-the only facts--I have and am able to place before you. My own view is that it would be very injurious to this Colony, if it were placed upon a basis of inferiority to the Straits Settlemonts and the Malay States, and further I may tell you that we have the greatest difficulty at the present moment with our present salaries in procuring men for the gaol, the police, the water police and those small appointments for which Europeans are required. The Colonial Se- cretary has placed in my hands a letter from the senior unofficial member, Mr. Chater. He states that he is sorry at being unable to he present and adds:"I am very strongly of opinion that our Civil Service here should not be placed in a worse position than the Service in Singapore, and I feel sure that the community would be of the same opinion." That is all I have to say upon the subject, and I place it before you.

Hon. Dr. Ho Kar-I understand, sir, the unofficial members are chiefly concerned in this matter and that the official members will neither discuss nor vote.

His EXCELLENCY the GOVERNOR- No, they will not.

Hon. Dr. Bo KA-With your leave, and in the absence of the senior unofficial member, I beg to propose a resolution in order that my unofficial colleagues may have an opportunity of discussing this question to-day. The pro- position I have to make is as follows:-"That the decision of the Rt. Hon. the Secretary of

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